Tariffs, Trade Wars and Trouble? How to Stay Calm in an Uncertain Economy | S7 E34

Roger Quesada:
You know, COVID affected my business. We went from we we shrunk 66%. Mhmm. A year a year after starting my business, we shrunk immediately, 66%. And I'm sitting in my driveway, and I'm like, I wonder if I'm gonna have a business next week. And with you know, that was three months sitting in my driveway. I wonder if I and I had a business three months later, and then it exploded.

Steve Alessi:
Hello, and welcome to another episode of the family business with the Alessis, where family is everybody's business. But today, it's not gonna be family. It's gonna be about money. We're gonna be talking trade. We're gonna be talking tariffs, and we're gonna be talking trouble. How do we navigate during these very uncertain economic times. And I have a good friend, ministry associate church member, Roger Quesada, who is with us in the podcast booth today. And what we wanna do is just try to help prepare you for how to think through these times and how to actually not just, as they say, sir, you know, kinda survive, but even can we thrive in these economic downtimes that we are concerned about.

Steve Alessi:
So, Roger, thanks for hanging out with us today.

Roger Quesada:
Thank you, pastor. I will tell you one thing. Let's smile through this whole thing because there's gonna be some painful things to talk about, but Oh, no. If we smile, everybody's gonna be so bad about

Steve Alessi:
it. We'll be happy. Okay. Listen, I want you to tell everybody what you do because, besides being a great friend and, you know, ministry, comrade and such, what do you do

Roger Quesada:
for work? Well, I I have a logistics management company. So we deal with warehousing, and we deal with transportation and, you know, anything that has to do with with commerce in that sense

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
Is what we do, is what I've been doing for the last twenty five years of my life. Is it correct?

Steve Alessi:
And so how many employees that you actually work with? I mean, you're warehousing.

Roger Quesada:
Right now, we have 550 we're getting ready to transition, out of one region and into another. So that's gonna put us about 650. Probably bring us closer to another hundred extra employees. Wow.

Steve Alessi:
And it's not just Miami. It's not just state of Florida. You're where? Well, I'm

Roger Quesada:
not in Florida at all.

Steve Alessi:
Actually, I

Roger Quesada:
don't have any business in Florida. I have business in the South Central Region, and I've had business in the Northeast. We have a lot of business in the Rockies and in the Southwest. Crazy. But no business in Florida. Yeah. Yeah. So you're on the road relax.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. You're on the road. At least, every other week, you're visiting one of your locations. You're actually, man, you're it's not true. You do have business in Florida.

Roger Quesada:
I do. We have business. I do. I have but I do have business. Not related to logistics, but I do have business in Florida. Yeah. You're right.

Steve Alessi:
Very cool. So speaking of, you take you're on the road quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. And you're juggling your job, employees' responsibilities plus home, your work commitments, and your family commitments, and your church commitments. You do a great job doing that. You're a real, blessing to the church here.

Roger Quesada:
Well, thank you. Yeah. That's it. You know? And and I have fun Mhmm. Quite frankly, doing work. I enjoy what I do, and I enjoy all the things that I do. And I do quite a few things now, as I've been able to, to venture out into different things other than in my core business. And, you know, some I'm learning on and some, I'm enjoying, and some are just passive, you know, the passive income type of investments,

Steve Alessi:
that are fun to watch. Speaking of you're international. Yeah. You got stuff in the Columbia.

Roger Quesada:
I've got stuff in Columbia. I've got some real estate business over there, and, I'm into the heavy machinery equipment over there, which is fun. You know, it's like playing with big toys.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. Wow. No. It's all to say, you you're navigating all of these different, business opportunities, offices, employees, people. This is real life stuff. You're you're navigating all of that stuff during these times. And so recently, you were able to sit with your employees, your top level leaders, and you're able to talk to them about this subject, that we wanna address today. So what were some of the things that, you would be able to say to our audience today that that'll help them be prepared for the possibility that these trades and, these tariffs could cause our economy to really slow down?

Roger Quesada:
Well, what prompted me to say, to have a conversation with my employees is that we're we are so close to to it from a business perspective. You know, we handle product all day long, and most of the product that we handle, it's either imported, or, you know, parts of it are imported and assembled here in The States. So we truck it. We we handle it in warehouses. We ship it. And because we're so close to it, you know, I think, what what I thought was if if if my people, the people that work with me are watching the news, and where don't you see the news now? Right? Even on your phone, the news is is constantly coming at you. And there's nothing positive about the economy that is coming through. They may be feeling like, man, is it gonna be my job next? Is it am I gonna be able to put food on my table? Where where is the company, going with this? Is the company in trouble? And, you know, I wanted to address it.

Roger Quesada:
I wanted to tell them where I stand as the the CEO of the company, where the company stands financially to be able to weather some of the storm if it does happen, and, you know, where they stand based on what they do for the company. And so, you know, I just addressed it head on. Honest. I said what I knew. I said what I didn't know, but I encouraged them. Yeah. Let's continue to do what we know how to do, which is do our job. We have a job today.

Roger Quesada:
Let's do it. Let's take care of our customers. Let's become invaluable so that if something has to go, we are the last ones to go.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
And that's that's the way we're gonna take care of ourselves. Right? Because I can't say I'm gonna take care of everybody here in the company. Mhmm. But I'm gonna take care of everybody that takes care of doing the right thing in the company Mhmm. If things go down. And then I also went back a little bit in history. And I talked to them, and I said, look. It's a different headline title, but it's exactly the same old headline.

Roger Quesada:
Mhmm. '25 is tariffs. In '24 and '23, it was inflation through the roof. In 2020 and '21 was COVID. And I even went further back. I said in 02/2008, it was a housing bubble. And then before that, it was a tech bubble. And there's always some headline that's that spells out catastrophe.

Roger Quesada:
End of the world. Everything is on fire. Everybody's gonna lose everything they've got. Your children are gonna be taken away. And it never happens. Mhmm. Sure. There's there's there's some consequences and some and some tough times for some people, but everybody's always on the other side of that Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
Alive. Yeah. They always eat. They always go to work. They always find a way. Mhmm. And so do we really wanna be believing all those headlines? Mhmm. Or do we wanna say, okay.

Roger Quesada:
I'll I'll prepare for the worst, but I'll keep living my life. And I'm not gonna let the surroundings or the or the news cycle Mhmm. Dictate what I'm going to do and how I'm gonna live. Yeah. That's the path I've chosen. I wanted to I wanted to bring that message to my people so that they at least have some confidence that we're not we're not heading, bearing our head under the sand. Mhmm. We're we have our eyes wide open to what's going on.

Roger Quesada:
Is it affecting our business? We we're not growing as fast as we were just a few years ago because everybody's got the the brakes on. We were just getting ready to close on a a relatively big contract, and that got put on hold. Mhmm. So, yeah, it is affecting. Is it going to destroy us as a company? No. Yeah. COVID didn't do it, and that was at our company's infancy. Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
And I didn't know a lot of the things then that I know now, and I didn't have the financial backing then that I have now to be able to to to withstand some of this. Yeah. So I wanted I wanted people to have at least hear it from me.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
And and I think it went over well.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
I can see some faces where kind of relief, like, man, you know, thank god. Yeah. At least we have another another shot at doing this. Mhmm. And people just wanna hear that. Look. All they hear is bad news.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm hoping help and, helps and happens with our audience today where they are sensing, okay. They're this isn't new. This isn't the end of the world. Let's not shake our hands into the heavens or even point fingers of blame because there's always somebody you wanna blame. Yep. I think, ultimately, for our country, you're in transportation.

Steve Alessi:
We're gonna we're gonna pump the brakes just a little bit here. What we've been doing over the last few years as a country with our economy has not necessarily been the best thing. And one administration talked about kicking the can down the road. That's kind of like where we have been because nobody's been bold enough to be able to look at the problem and say, we got an issue here, and nobody's bold enough to take a hit for a little bit. But if there's gonna be any kind of course correction, there there has to be a step back. You gotta be willing to give up something in order to get something. And, you know, we've got major industries in our country that are doing business with nations that have terrible working conditions for human beings. But it's all about the bottom line, how they could use that labor to get a cheaper product.

Steve Alessi:
Meanwhile, that country does not have our country's best interests at heart. But yet for money's sake, they're willing to do business with that country. Now we're saying, wait. There's other people, other countries that our own country, our own, men

Roger Quesada:
and

Steve Alessi:
women that could do what you need for your company. Yeah. It's gonna be a change for you, and it's gonna cost you something, but it's gonna make the the country safer, better, but it's gonna take a minute. And I'm not sure people in our country wanna do that. Right.

Roger Quesada:
Because it's easier to blame somebody else for my for what's going on with me than for me to take responsibility.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
And, you know, in in in my business, we actually get hired to fix problem, warehouses, and it's never fun in the beginning.

Steve Alessi:
Explain that a little bit.

Roger Quesada:
So what I mean is, you know, an operation may be losing money because it's losing freight or it's damaging freight or it's not shipping freight on time and various reasons. Right? And and it's causing some some either customer quality service deficiencies or just costing a lot of money to to run. So we get hired to fix it. And when we come in, we evaluate the whole thing, and then we start ripping out Band Aids. We don't take a soft approach to fix the problem because we're being paid to fix it and fix it fast. And so, you know, usually, the people that are that have caused the problem are the first ones to complain about the way we are doing. We're we're fixing the problem.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. Yeah. And they don't last very long. Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
Right? But it's easier to blame us than to admit we caused this problem.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
Or or we participated in in perpetuating the results of the world.

Steve Alessi:
So the ones that cause it are the first ones to complain about it.

Roger Quesada:
Right. Wow. And so I can understand how, you know, what the approach is from the administration in in doing this, and it may cause some pain for a while. But, ultimately, if we wanna have a more prosperous nation, right, we know how to we know how to use our money and do use it well here in The United States if we're given the opportunity to do so. And if we're more prosperous here at all levels, then we're a stronger nation. We can do a lot more for other nations. And so we, you know, we as a nation, we decided that it was better and cheaper to farm out our our jobs. And, look, politically speaking, we can have our own opinions.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
I think, what's happening, there's a lot of corrections that need to happen.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
And we're gonna feel some of the pain of it. And we've got to take responsibility for what we can do. Yes. And and what our responsibility is with our own households, with our own handling of our own financial responsibility, our budgets, our income, our, you know, spending within our means. All those things play into how this whole thing affects us.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
I can't much as I would have the power to make Donald Trump or any president do what I wanted to do, I don't have that power. Yeah. I can only do what I can do Right. To protect myself, my family, and those who I'm responsible for Mhmm. Who are around me. And that's what I'm striving to do. I can't fix any of that stuff.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
I can agree with some of it. I maybe I disagree with some of it too. Mhmm. But I can only do one thing, is vote. Yeah. That's the only power I have to be able to affect nationally what's going on, but I can affect

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
The household of Quesada

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. Every single day. Yep. So what then would you say how how are you processing, to to see the possibility of a slowdown because of price hikes with products and so forth? So what are you saying to the average person that's sitting out there today how to navigate through this? It's simple. You know, just take stock of of where you are financially. If, you know, if you are making $50,000 and you're spending $60,000, and listen, the economy has no no problem beating you up.

Roger Quesada:
You're already doing that on your own. So start living within your means. Right? You make $50,000 maybe spend $45,000 in all your life and put five away And make sure that you you're building a little cushion for for ups and downs because, listen, whether it's this economy and this terrorist thing or another thing, something will surely come. And the news media, because that's how they sell, they make their money, is gonna create a a a big propaganda machine for getting viewers. And you gotta remember, viewership is how they make their money.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
And if they turn your attention, whether it's with good news or bad news, it's usually good news doesn't get people's attention. Yeah. It's bad news and the and the sensationalism

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
That gets people to to talk and then argue and then break, you know, break up. It just causes tremendous amount of stress. So focus first on you, your household, your family. Plan. If you're not making enough money, then maybe it's time to upskill. Get another skill. Maybe look for another job. Change your careers.

Roger Quesada:
Do something for yourself. And I'll tell you right now, in in a meeting with my sales team, I said to them, right now is the best time to go out and sell. Because everybody's looking for I I need to change something. I need to change some something. Don't hold back and don't assume that the marketplace is not ready. Go out and knock on as many doors and talk to as many people as possible. We were just talking to, a company yesterday up in in the Midwest, And they the the person said, you know, we know we need to make improvements, but I don't know if this is the right time. And and our salesperson said, this is the perfect time.

Roger Quesada:
This is the time where you can make the adjustments that you need in order to go through this and come out better on the other end. That was a great line because it's the truth. Yeah. So right now is a great time for opportunities. Right now is a great time to explore. You know, am I doing the best? Take care of what you can control, which is you and your and your household. Yeah. Be responsible for what you can be responsible for.

Roger Quesada:
Live within your means, and put away for when things go bad, you don't have to lose your mind.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. I'm glad you say slow down because a lot of people don't use that take that advice. They just want more and more. They think more is gonna fix their problem. Right. When now when more doesn't seem to be readily available, they get all nervous. When the reality is, when we talk about getting in a budget, it's your it's your habits. It's your spending habits.

Steve Alessi:
We see it all the time. People joking about, you know, now your best friend is the Amazon driver. That's true. Somebody is spending money for Amazon to be on the road, do everything that Amazon's doing with all those deliveries.

Roger Quesada:
Yeah.

Steve Alessi:
Alright? So it's, we we don't have so much an income problem in our day as much as we have an outdoor problem. People just don't wanna change their spending habits. They want to put it on somebody else to make it easier for them to have more. Well, what you're saying is, ultimately, if they just get a hold of their spending, because that's the thing they can control, Roger. When you're talking about not being able to control what happens in Washington or China or Canada or Mexico, You can control what you buy on your keyboard. You can control your spending. Right. So if you control your spending, you're you start to now get control of your finances.

Steve Alessi:
And then you're able to say wait. And, you know, to me, controlling spending is like hitting a pause button. Hit it for six months. You'll be able to go out and buy at Christmas. Alright? Right. You get a rush from buying, save it up for Christmas. Go go share that joy of spending it and spreading the love with others. But six months, it's not forever.

Steve Alessi:
Six months. Hit the pause button, hang in there, Get through a few months to where now you're putting some money aside, and you'll find yourself then, alright. You're gonna come through this, but you're gonna have something even left over when you come through it. And it's not gonna be just an extra pair of shoes or so. And now you're actually gonna have some resources that are set aside for you for the rainy day that may still can come. So slowing down is a good thing. What else can they do?

Roger Quesada:
I'll I'm gonna tell you a good in regards to slowing down and and spending, right, we we don't know what we spend today because it was all digital. We don't touch it. It's just a click on the board. Yeah. Right? Whether it's the way we get paid, we don't nobody gets a check anymore. It's all direct deposit. Right? It's all digits Yep. In and out.

Roger Quesada:
It's simple. You just press a a submit button or or checkout button or whatever. There is no there's no pain associated with gaining money or spending. But if you go back to the old ways, and you probably did this because I know I did this, I'd take my check, cash it out, and have the envelope system and throw monies inside of the envelopes for the different things in the budget line. And when I saw that some of those envelopes were getting a little thicker, I I didn't wanna touch that envelope. Yeah. It feels good to see something get big and grow. So getting seeing the envelope grow was more important than than spending the money on what ever the thing was that so if you had, like, you know, a hundred dollars put away for recreation and you didn't go out this week, next week, you have 200.

Roger Quesada:
Mhmm. Like, I wonder if I don't go out this week. How much I'll have next week?

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
And you're like, if I don't go out for a month, I have $400. Yeah. And then you start building this habit of seeing wealth grow simply because you put a hundred bucks in a in an envelope. Yeah. But if we do it just from the phone and we never see it, we never touch it.

Steve Alessi:
Or we swipe it, man. You're right.

Roger Quesada:
We swipe it. It goes away so easily. So maybe changing a little habit of cashing the check or taking some money out of the bank account, throw it in an envelope.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
Just leaving it there. Don't touch it. Yep. And see how good that feels when you see how you're able to accomplish saving some money aside.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. And if you do want coffee, use your little cash. Exactly. Don't put it on your credit card. Right.

Roger Quesada:
Because if you go to the the play place and you got $5, you're gonna get a coffee. Yeah. But if you don't and you have the the app, you're gonna get $25 worth of stuff that you probably didn't even need. Yeah.

Steve Alessi:
So true. Mhmm. Again, that's you're controlling this situation rather than this this situation controlling you. I know from, a spiritual perspective, because a lot of what we do comes from faith, our spiritual aspect. What's the spiritual I see? And you said about, this happening in the past. This has been happening for centuries. Right. And so we know of a good Bible character who who was used in Egypt to prepare, get ready for what would have been a drought, which was going to last for a long period of time.

Steve Alessi:
Egypt did better under his leadership working with the pharaoh, because he had a mind, wise thoughts, actions. He had a game plan. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is what could be hurting some people, having an eye of faith says, wait. This could actually be a good opportunity for me. Right. This isn't doesn't have to be a bad opportunity. I could come out better. I can come out ahead when the stock market went low a few, weeks ago.

Steve Alessi:
A lot of people that don't understand the market were they got scared, and they were selling when those that understand the market were saying this is a great opportunity to buy. Right? So instead of losing money when they sold, they were actually able to make money. So I think, through the eyes of faith, we could actually see this as an opportunity to better ourselves. For one, if you're gonna get on a budget, you're better already.

Roger Quesada:
Mhmm. Right.

Steve Alessi:
Two, opportunities going to come knocking, and it could be through this particular door for you that you don't necessarily think is good. But faith says, you know, I can still prosper. And which then and this is the part where I think a lot of people miss it. You in your holding back, you gotta be careful that you miss you don't miss out on making sure you're also sowing something going forward. I believe in sowing a principle, the seed time and harvest principle. Seed goes into the ground. Our seed is our money. That seed goes into the ground.

Steve Alessi:
It will give you a harvest. More money's coming back. You can't leave out this aspect of giving, sowing and reaping during those times.

Roger Quesada:
No, if you, I mean, the biggest stories in the Bible about financial miracles, that we read them and we're like, wow, what faith, right? Where are not? The widow who gave everything, she had the mites.

Steve Alessi:
Mhmm.

Roger Quesada:
And the widow who had the baby, and she was she said, you know, all I have is enough flour to eat a little cake and die. And the priest said, all right, you can do that, but make me one first. So that means give me everything you've got. And then we read it and we see that, you know, how many jars of of oil and how many, how much stuff did she have? She said she paid off all her debts and then had enough to live for the rest of her life.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
That's a huge we turned that into dollars. She got a retirement plan fully funded. Yeah. Forever. Yeah. Right? But yet, when it comes to the practical, we say, Oh, wow, I gotta hold back because now is not a good time. Well, it wasn't a good time for the lady

Steve Alessi:
who was gonna die. Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
That was the worst time.

Steve Alessi:
Yes, sure.

Roger Quesada:
It was her and her baby. She got no income, and that's all she had, and she was gonna die. So either we believe that that can happen to us, or we don't.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. And it can happen to us.

Roger Quesada:
Yeah. If we accept, and we we accept accept that the Bible is true. Mhmm. That same God that did that for those ladies and and those people in the Bible that we are in awe, and we read them like, man, God is so good. Well Yeah. He's still the same God today. Yeah. We are as much as children as those people.

Roger Quesada:
Mhmm. And he can do the same thing

Steve Alessi:
Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
For us today. Mhmm. We just gotta accept it and believe it and and and really build up enough, fortitude of character to say, I'm going to do this regardless of I listen. I'm a I'm in a great position now, and I thank God. God has been so good to me. Mhmm. But I remember having just enough money to either pay the tithe or pay the rent. This Roger is not the only version of Roger that's existed.

Steve Alessi:
Yeah. Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
The broke Roger, right, which probably was more of my life than now Yeah. Had to make those decisions too. And I remember paying the tithe and calling the landlord and said, I can't pay you. I need to move by the end of the month. And the landlord saying, you're staying as long as you need to. And when you start working and by the way, I had no job. All I had was a tie, no job, and the rent was due. You stay, and when you're ready to pay me back, you call me, and we'll set up a payment plan.

Roger Quesada:
Come on. That guy didn't have to do that. Yeah. He wanted me there more than I wanted to to to pay him. Mhmm. Now can I make those things happen? Can I buy that kind of favor? No. No. And it doesn't mean that God gave me the money.

Roger Quesada:
He just gave me the favor to endure for that season. Yeah. So it isn't always about, you know, I'm gonna give, I'm gonna barter with God or or do some some, you know, trading. I'm gonna give him 20 so he can give me 2,000. No. Yeah. God will take care of you. That's what he promises.

Roger Quesada:
Yeah. He doesn't say he's gonna give you money. Yeah. He's gonna take care of you. And I've been a recipient of it more times than I can remember, and I always try to remember that even though now I'm not in that situation where I need God. Well, I am. I always need God in a financial way because now my bets are bigger, and I need him to come through in a bigger way.

Steve Alessi:
And he still does the same thing. Favor comes to me, puts me in situations where I'm not qualified to be in. Same thing. Yeah. Well, two things come out, come to my mind here. Number one, we can't have more trust in a government leader than we do god. We can't trust the politicians. We can't trust the company.

Steve Alessi:
We can't trust those voices more than we trust the voice of God. Second thing, David says something in the Bible. He says, I've never seen the righteous forsaken or their seed begging for bread. That is so true. Roger, in all the years of doing what I've been doing, over forty years in ministry, I've seen beggars, but they were beggars that were always in the beggar position. The beggar posture, which is give me some money to help me out of my situation. But I've never seen a beggar that's been in the posture of being a giver. Never.

Steve Alessi:
A person who tithes gives of offerings. In all my years, when they go through a hard time, temptation is to pull back and say, I need help. But there, the the faith is saying, no. I may need help, but I'm going to stay committed to giving my tithes and my offerings, like you did. What do I do? Do I pay the landlord, or do I pay the lord of the land? Mhmm. You paid the lord of the land. You paid your tithes to the lord, and the lord blessed you. And you'd it was painful, but it's the old saying, it felt it it just felt so good because look where you're at today.

Steve Alessi:
And you had to do that. That spiritual muscle of faith needed to be strengthened during that time. People don't get that. They miss out. They they look at their money as their provider because money gives them something. They look at their boss as the one that's gonna give them the money. Then they look at their boss, but then they look at the government, whoever's in the White House, who's causing the boss to have to make decisions and so on and so forth. So, ultimately, they stay in a cycle of defeat.

Steve Alessi:
If you look at your money, you look at your boss, you look at the government, you're never getting ahead. But if you look at God, now all of a sudden, he trumps, excuse me, all of those. He trumps money, your your your boss, and the government. Chris, now, he is on the hook for having to provide for you if you're giving of your finances to him, being faithful with that 10% of your tithe and giving your offerings. He's on the hook now because you've put him to the test. If we're gonna talk about making it through difficult financial times, you can't eliminate the aspect of faith that says, I trust God, so I'm gonna give to God of my finances.

Roger Quesada:
Right. Well, and and, you know, faith is the antidote to fear. Right. And what's going on now? People are reacting in fear. Mhmm. I'm gonna lose my job. I'm gonna get laid off or, you know, I'm gonna have to pay $10 a dozen of eggs. Yeah.

Roger Quesada:
And that's fear. It's all field fear driven. Well, faith says, if I have to pay $10 of for a dozen of eggs, God is gonna give me $10. Mhmm. Or somebody's gonna give me some free eggs. Yeah. But I'm gonna get my eggs because the God that created the chicken that lays the eggs is my God. He's gonna provide for me.

Roger Quesada:
Yeah. So exercising faith is driving away fear. It's that simple. Yeah. And so you either believe God or you believe fear, which is what is being propagated out there. Fear does talk. Yeah. Fear speaks.

Roger Quesada:
And and and so I choose to believe God in spite of what happens. Mhmm.

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