How We Found Our Sound: Blending Music, Ministry and Business in the Family | S3 E11

Intro to S3 E11

SPEAKER_01 0:09

Hello and welcome to another edition of the Family Business with the Alessies. I'm Steve Alesi, and around the table today, I have Mary Alesi and I have Stephanie Alessi Mwina. Yes. And we're talking about things here today in our podcast that we don't talk about on Sundays. And the reason we have our family business podcast is because family is really everybody's business. So today, here's what I want to talk about. I want to talk about how we as a family work together. No, we don't want to talk about that. Now that our daughter's pregnant with all the how do we work with her? All of the other things that come with being pregnant. Hey, Mary, how is it working with your pregnant daughter?

SPEAKER_02 1:00

Oh, it depends on what day you're talking about. There are good days, there are bad days. Actually, it's pretty good when she's, you know, when everything's balanced and she's not hungry.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

As long as she's not hungry, we're good. If she's hungry, she's the tiger. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

It's very boxing.

SPEAKER_03 1:14

Yes, I haven't been angry.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Yeah. But we haven't written together since, so it's Steph, how is it working with your mother now that you're pregnant?

SPEAKER_03 1:24

Um, I have to keep her fed. She has her good days and she has her bad days. And she's hormonal sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

You know what? Menopause pregnancy. There's a lot of them a little bit parallel in the two. A lot of parallels. Bad for no reason.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Okay, so we asked that question because Stephanie was anti-we're not going to talk about the family working together anymore today on this one. No, the dynamics. So I had to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

All right. So, Steph, you and your mom.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

You have this uh handle on the aspect of our business, our our ministry, which is the music and what is worship to our church

A Musical Legacy

SPEAKER_01 2:09

family. And um, when mom and I started the church years ago, we had that same kind of balance. I was the the speaker, I was the leader, mom was the co-leader, but she handled the music and the worship. Both had our little teams and so on. Well, you've picked up on that.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

And uh it's a it's a fortunate thing that your mom has gone before you.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Yes, it is. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Thank God because I can handle it as a family member who has uh the aspect of the music that they uphold. Because it there's a lot that goes into what we do with my position and the music, setting an atmosphere, um, making sure it's appealing to everybody in the crowd. Yep. Um, there's a lot that goes into this. So how how in the world are we able to blend it? And then where do we take that now with all this beautiful music that we're able to uh make?

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Well, you know, working together when when it comes to music and worship, and we like you said, you and I have had 25 years of working it out. Um, and we didn't just work it out, we thought it out. We had a lot of conflicts trying to get to the right sound for our church and the styles you like versus the styles I like. Ultimately, I understood after many seminars and trainings I would have to go to that you do have to submit that to the pastor and the vision of the church. And you were always good about saying, okay, you like gospel a lot, you know, I like gospel a some, but our church is the sound of the house, which is you, Mary. It's Miami. You know, and it's Miami. So you would release that and just let it be organic, which we struggle for that for a while because you feel like you have to make some kind of sound. You have to create something rather than who you are coming together. It's already created. You just have to sing the sound that's on the inside of you. And I you learned that even being in the when you preach, that you had to find your voice. You couldn't copy somebody else's voice because then you weren't authentic, and we had to do the same thing. I had to do that. And then now adding this extra layer of all of us working together, you would think that would just be smooth and easy, but it's it's had its conflicts too.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

Yeah, I think, well, first of all, I've been very lucky because not a lot of pastors' kids have parents, and not a lot of musicians or writers have parents that give them the opportunity to even figure it out. So I first have to be very grateful for the opportunity, but I did have my very, very immature season of exactly that. I I really was trying to make it cool or unique, and I wasn't embracing what we had in front of us, which was a little bit less than a family travel band.

SPEAKER_04 5:01

Yeah, which is like, oh gosh.

SPEAKER_03 5:03

Like, okay, let's just embrace it. Like, this is cool. Michael Jackson did it. So, like, you can sing with your family too. And also the sound that was coming out of us was really fun and cool. Yeah. But it took a little time for me to embrace that. And then I felt like once I finally mentally embraced the fact that I'm gonna be writing songs with my mom and I'm gonna be singing them with my siblings. Once I embraced that, it was like the the pride for our songs was unleashed. And this the confidence in our vision and in our projects, that made it so much easier. Number one, easier and very, very fun.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Yeah. And Steph, the thing that you have to uh really embrace is the fact that partly the door was open because you're an Alessie. Yeah, I'm wina now. Partly that door was open, but you had to step through with it with your own talent and your own gifting. And it didn't just come because you had a guitar and you'd be playing some of your songs in your room, and we just thought you were awesome. No, it took fine tuning, and you're still working really hard at defining this craft that is music. So you're up there, not just because you're our kid, yeah, you're really not. You're up there and on staff in a position because you carry the gifting that comes with it. And it's not just recognized by us, it's recognized by music labels and other songwriters who want to come up alongside of you and mom and and y'all put your gift to uh in place together. So it's not just something that you are given, which is I've seen a lot of leaders at my position just give their kids positions that they really have not earned. They don't have the skill set for it. Yes, and they prop them up there, they put them on social media media, they put them out there, and sadly they're not ready for it. Well, fortunately, we are not in that position. We're in a position where you're extremely talented. Yeah, sure. And you come to the gather and come together, and you and your mom just the two are better than one, which is not easy. No, um, Mary, you've you've had to deal with that realization that even your own gift, as great as it is, you're seeing that it could be even better when it's combined with your daughters.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

And

The Power of Collaboration

SPEAKER_02 7:32

collaborating, we're fortunate because to collaborate right now is like the way to do music and to do worship. Everybody's writing with somebody else. To be able to write with somebody that came out of your womb that knows you and you know them, and you're you're watching them develop this amazing, not only gift but anointing, and really grabbing things from the atmosphere of our Sunday services that she wants to write about. And to to for her to give me complete freedom to say, what do you think, mom? And she really, really listens to me. I don't overcorrect, I try not to, but she is what I think about her song matters to her. Yes. And that matters to me. That makes it so much easier for me because that makes it a God-ordained partnership. Yes. And not something we're trying to force that has a start date and an end date. We really are, you know, the Bible says two are better than one. It also says that one puts a thousand, two can put ten thousand to flight. I I I don't want to work by myself. I don't want to write these songs on my own. I never have. I don't, that's not my strength space. She doesn't really either.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

No.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

We could, but we really do enjoy working together and derive a lot of strength from working together on these songs.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

Yeah. And I would also say that I I had to come in, I had to learn to trust you. At first, I was like, it's just my mom. But working with you, not even in songwriting, but in ministry and other little things, I was like, wait a minute. She, number one, she has a talent of her own. She's got here because of her gifting too. She didn't just get propped up. And if she knows the song isn't good, then the song ain't good. Right. And if she knows that my ideas are not, aren't all that great, then they must not be that great. Because she's praised me when the ideas are really good too. So she knows. Right. But it was when I finally learned like, trust your mom, trust the gifting in her too. Because I learned that you were right 100% of the time.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

So that's a big deal. It is a huge deal. You know, that I heard it said the other day, the biggest room in the world is room for improvement.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Oh, that's good. It's really good.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

And here's what happens even with kids looking at their parents today.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

They think their parents are outdated, they're they're behind the times.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Um, they're just not cool. They're they're just not up there. Everybody else is, but not family, not your parents.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

But yet to keep a family working together, keep a family together, there has to be this mutual respect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

And I have this understanding that, you know, when you're younger, you have to obey us.

SPEAKER_04 10:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

As a child with the child in the home, before they are up to that, let's say 18, yeah. They have to obey the parents, plain and simple. It's non-negotiable. Now there's going to be a struggle there because the the younger thinks I I know better. I'm my parents are older, they're old-fashioned. So there's a struggle there for the obedience. Mom, how's that song?

SPEAKER_04 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Well, it's not good, so on so forth. Well, when you're 16, you would fight a little, but then you'd realize mom was right.

SPEAKER_04 10:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Here's what happens when you get to become a woman of your own. And now you're no longer in the house. As we work together, this isn't about obedience, it's about honor. Yes. And so what you do is whereas you were forced to obey your parents when you're younger, now you make a choice to honor that parent that you're working with. That's right. And you have your gifts, you have your talents, but so does the parent. And you would never be in a position that you are in today had it not been for the work that the parent did. So that's why you honor the parent, is not so much for what she's doing today, it's what she's done all these years before that got all of us to where we are today. So this is what is unique is there is a mutual respect, but there's also a mutually honor, mutual honor that goes on here that we fight for as a family, and even in this relationship, because you do have certain gifts, mom has certain gifts. Um, and those things could clash, like happens with a lot of young girls and their moms in the home. But the it it's on both sides. There's a lot of grace given from the elder.

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

And there's a lot of grace and understanding and questions from the younger that says, Hey, I want to do this better. And that's why, you know, this God relationship is so important.

SPEAKER_04 12:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Because it's hard to do that

The Importance and Identity of Honor

SPEAKER_01 12:19

when you're fighting all these thoughts. So, Mary, you want to say something on that?

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Yeah, I I want to say I don't think any relationship will work, whether it's working or friendship, whatever, where there's not mutual honor. And when we've heard over the years, oh, I couldn't work with my son, or I just couldn't work with my parents, what's missing is the ability to honor the other one. I'm sorry, I I don't it's there's no um extra attribute that's negative that you were born with that keeps you from being able to do something that's hard.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

We all have the ability if we laid down our own desire. And honestly, what's worked for me, because I I don't ever like to toot my own horn or brag, but I've I've been in some really important rooms with some really important people and sang in front of them. I've had certain nominations that were pretty prestigious. We did very well on the road and I loved every minute of it, but I walked away for a season to raise my children. And so going back to this to be able to work with my daughter, and we work with all our kids in ministry, and then hearing from others that couldn't do that. Well, I can tell you what I've had to do in order to make that happen. I've had to, number one, be grateful for the what I've already experienced. Yes. But I've also had to back up and say, I have to make this more about Stephanie right now. Even if she's wrong, I have to help support her because I can't take from her these beginning stages. I didn't have a person that had already lived the life that I've lived hovering over me, overcorrecting. And I knew that I had to back up and say, okay, there's going to be a different system she's going to walk in. There's going to be different sounds she's going to hear. But the benefit to me is I what I get, I get the blessing of watching this blossom in her and just help steer it when I need to out of honor, but certainly not to crush her and to veer her off the road and go, forget it. I can't work for you, mom. All you do is criticize. And what she's given me is her obedience now, honor to say, let me receive from you what I can because you have been there. You do know how to write songs. And at the same time, there's a freedom in her to bring a bridge to the table or a verse or a sound or something to the table that I'm like blown away by. But then I have the freedom to change whatever I feel like could make the song better. And at the end of the day, there's an old saying that we've said for years the thing that I'm a part of is bigger than the part that I play.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

I love that saying because if you wake up in the morning thinking that thought and go to bed thinking that thought, you will just be so grateful for being in the room.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

And no matter who you are or how big you are, if you started the company, if you're transitioning the company, whatever it is, just be grateful every day that you're still in the room. And that what that sends to everybody else in the room is the message of you can still hang in there and honor every new person that's figuring it out and learning and coming along. And when you release that, it comes back to you.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

And I'll add to that and say that the honor and the trusting that you're giving to your family or to the unit that you're working with, that you're recognizing that that's your foundation. Right. Which in music business and with musicians and with songwriters, all you need is a foundation. You need the confidence, the talents, the funds, and the foundation. Yeah. Because if you do not have a foundation, you're kind of a homeless, you say homeless Christian, but homeless songwriter. And you spend years of your life trying to figure out what's even my sound? Who am you need to attach to a label? You have to get a manager. And all the money is coming out of your own pocket. And you're hoping that the people you're working with are loyal.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 16:01

But when you have a family that you can work with, for us, it's music. For other people, it may be architecture, design, whatever it is. That's your foundation. And a lot of people in my generation, they may believe, oh, well, my parents, they set me up to get me to this point. Now I got to take the baton and run with it, which is partly true. Um, but the I think more blessings and more safety is unleashed if you say, okay, I'll take the baton, but I'm gonna keep you with me all along the way. That's right. And and stay attached to this foundation because I I this is my identity.

SPEAKER_04 16:39

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

And that's the result of this album. The album is a a revealing of the identity of who we are as a family business, as a family worship team. Um, and it just shows we have a very strong foundation that we're we have to be proud to be a part of.

Teamwork and Roles for Families

SPEAKER_03 16:57

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Steph, this is unlike professional sports. Professional sports, really, the the highest bidder gets the best talent because he's out there looking. He's gonna, he's going to hire them onto their team, pay them a lot of money. And it's really paycheck motivation for these young guns that are out there in professional sports. There was a shift, though, a few years ago before they started handing out those big contracts because before it was about the team. And you loved being with the team and the coach, and there was something there that guys would stay committed to because there was they were winning and they had a goal to make it happen. But then things shifted when big contracts started to come around, and it really wasn't about the team anymore. It became about my star.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

How high can I be seen, you know, shoot into the atmosphere, how bright can my star be? That really became about the individual, and that could really hurt in the home. It can hurt definitely in what we do as a business because uh as again, as a family, most of the time it's dad's star. In our line of work, this is what it's it's my the the vision, it's what we we did, yeah, moved out, okay. Um more or less own the team. Okay, so it's dad's star. But then when when in that that atmosphere stratosphere uh of the star, there's others. There, there's there's uh there's room for others to come alongside and say, wait, your star is pretty unique. And your star is pretty unique. Because when we work together, and we do, because you two may write the songs together, but I'm part of the team from a financial standpoint. Are we spending the right kind of money in the right place? Uh, the kind of songs, what do we want for our church?

SPEAKER_04 18:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Um, who should when should we be playing songs? I yeah, just a long time ago said, look, I don't want to hear anybody else's songs on Sundays when you come to church, uh, except our songs going through our sound system. Why? Because this is our music, this is very intentional. It's not everybody's different songs. We're not playing all these other uh bands and church's music. Yep. Here's what Metros is. Listen, we just did it recently at one of our getaway camps. Said, guys, we're changing our worship, we're changing all the music. I want it to be all about us. And though it was a men's environment, I still wanted the videos to be from our Overcome Live project that was just released. I wanted that, even though there is a woman in the room, in a sense, with us, with all men, I wanted the men to be able to stay focused on it. And quite frankly, I wanted them to have that thought in their mind. When they go back and hear the song, it'll take them back to what happened when they were at camp. It's kind of like the broken heart. Every time they hear a song, they're reminded of the broken heart and what happened. I wanted it to be when they hear this music, association back to that, association. So there's things, roles that I play in this, even though I'm not the songwriter, and I just don't say, guys, go do it. There are some things that come along and say, hey, I like that, or let's go in this direction. Let's hear 90% of it is y'all, but I do have a role. So even that teamwork and the family working together goes beyond just mom and daughter.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

It does. Right. Well, I let me add to that because we had discussed it back at the beginning of this year, that we were going to use our faith nights to record new projects and new songs and which put us under a lot of pressure. We put ourselves under a very pressurized timeline for this year. And then when we presented it to you, our idea, you were like, guys, you know what? You don't need to do that. You really need to spend more energy promoting what you just released. Get your team out there. You don't need new, you need to spend more energy and money into what you've already done. And it released us from feeling like, oh, it's old already, and we gotta, you know, we we need to get new stuff. Yeah. So we need that input from the visionary of our church and the person that also helps write the checks to help us determine what we can't spend. But that's wisdom and that's covering, and it really helped us. It didn't make us go, well, we can't do what we want to do now. Are you kidding? We had this meeting and we, it actually relieved us because we were doing what we thought we were expected to do, and we presented it to you, and you were like, it's not time. And that's what's so important about submitting your mission to the mission of the house and to the leader of the vision, because it keeps us all on the right timeline where we're not spinning our wheels and we're not exhausted. It's such good checks and balances. But you know what? Whether it's in music ministry, church ministry, if you're working for your parents under any circumstances or you're working with family, when you eliminate the voice from the top, which happens when you work with family because it's you slip into Uh, oh, it's dad or oh, it's my uncle. When you do that, you dishonor the position.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Instead of saying, I am just I'm an employee like everybody else, what you do is you make it so much easier on your uncle or on your father or whoever it is that you're working for that's a family member that's running that company, because you're letting them know I am not going to be the one. I will not be the one that makes this harder on you. And for Stephanie and I, we know we could sit down and go, but we really want to record something new. We'd like to spend this much money, but we won't do it. Even if we felt like you know, you're missing it, you don't really know. That's the worst thing. Well, you you know, Pastor Steve doesn't really know the system. He doesn't really know what's going out there in the industry, and you got to have new music all the time. Every Friday, you got to drop something new. You know, we've got to get it out there. We killed that thing because it don't make you money.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

Thank

Knowing Who To Listen To

SPEAKER_04 23:01

you.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

More of it won't make you money. It's like we're producers and arrangers at full full time and that's not what we're called to do.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Mary, kids are doing the same thing in the home all the time. And and the parent, you know, it was very easy to get a little intimidated, Steph, when you would say to me, Dad, uh, Brewster says do this, or yeah, so and so the label says do this. And I'm like, okay, that that's that sounds right, but I'm not, I I think I I have a different opinion. I think maybe we can do it this way, maybe not shut off all that, but do it this way. But when I go there, it you were willing and are willing to come off. Well, this is what they said, because what they said may work for some people, but it doesn't always work for everybody. So in the home, parents struggle with, I think I'm right. Right, right, right, right. That's hard. I'm I think I'm right. Yeah, sure. And my but my kids telling me that I'm I'm not, they're making fun of me because I'm not on social media, and the social media uh influencer on TikTok is over here saying this is how it should be done. And a parent starts to feel irrelevant. Yes, yeah, and a parent can't vacate their position. The the leader of the business can't vacate their position all because they feel as though people are doing it a different way, yeah, and they're not going with their instincts.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Yeah, that that's powerful.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

And and you gotta go with the instincts of right, especially if you're on the same page with with God and you know that you're you're flying at the right altitude for your life, you know this works for you. Don't back away from that. Yeah, and to your credit along the way, okay. There's been a few of those.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

We'd have to butt heads a little bit, but then there would be times and we would go with it. Yeah. But then as we got a little bit more into it, we're like, it's give and take. Okay, Steph, this doesn't sound right. And you've been able to back off of this, where I this is what so-and-so says, and you were willing to readjust your sales and go in a different direction, and it's helped take the pressure off of the environment and the tension so that we could all really work together.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Yeah, because I unfortunately I had to get close to the music industry to see that my parents write the whole time. Like, because what I learned about being in the creative world in the songwriting world is that creators, they're just your your little bit of gasoline to keep the industry going. Yeah, but it's not, it's not the car. It doesn't fill up the whole tank. And I love that I can create, it's so much fun. I love the reaction I get out of people when they love what I've created. But I've had to, the closer and closer I got to music labels, who's running those music labels, who's doing the finances and music labels, I was like, oh my God, all these people are like my parents. They're all, they're all in their older, they are adults. Yeah, they've been doing it a long time. They've been doing it a long time. And I'm sorry, they are just signing you because they need you to help them bring in funds. Like, that's it. And because they have a living and you're gonna need a living too.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

It's their J-O-B, it's their J O B.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

And for creatives, you need to partner with non-creatives. Yeah, it's just if you actually want to make this a sustainable life. That's right. It's an incredible gifting you have on your life. And I'm sure you can write the most beautiful songs, make the most beautiful graphics, whatever it is. But if you are not trusting the people in your life that, whether it's your parents, in our case, it's my parents, that brings stability and a 10-year view to what you're trying to create, then it won't sustain you. You you really won't make money.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Well, I could be the world's greatest painter, but if I don't have some structure to hang my art on, then what is it for? I can't just lean it up against trees. You know, you gotta have you gotta have somebody who will build walls and will support and create structure for you. And we were talking about this earlier. One of the things that was so frustrating for me when the years I was on the road is how many incredible artists that were so talented that were banking back in the day that didn't even know where all their money was. Yeah. So you can make all the money, you can live high on it, and it all be about you. But at the end of the day, when you don't honor somebody else's abilities that are different than yours, then it might be your boss, it might be your dad who's head of the company or head of the ministry, and realize, hey, just the fact that he's been here longer means he's smarter. Period. He's lived longer, he's seen some things, she's seen some things. There's experiences. What you learn when you've gone through winter, summer, spring, and fall a couple of times, you realize, oh, it's all the same. It's coming back around and nothing really changes. Everything changes and nothing changes at the same time. So it's really wisdom of you, Stephanie, and we've talked about it, that you've embraced that because you can embrace the creative side, you can embrace the talent, you can be obedient, take the job. But when you truly create the inner workings of what makes this work, which is submission and obedience and honor, the sky's the limit.

SPEAKER_03 28:24

And you know, um, another thing back to that whole trust idea and honoring. Um my pregnancy brain.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

This is real time, y'all. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

I was going to say another reason why it's important.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Hold on to it. Go.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

I'm so sorry. The reason why it is so important to team up with a foundation, like your family and your church, is I've heard so many albums from the best worship leaders, and they will spend an entire year in the heart of Nashville, surrounded completely by other creatives who get excited just by creating. And they built up this album to be the best album ever. And I hear it, and it is so boring. Yeah. And there's nothing I connect to, there's nothing that's that's realistic or it's it wasn't organic. Because it wasn't organic. And it always reminds me, I love Nashville. I love the people in Nashville, they're great. I have to go and I go there often. I will be going there often. Yeah, it does a lot of good for creatives. But if you want to make an album, if you want to create something that's actually gonna touch the people in your life, then stay around the people in your life and trust their their opinions. Like when I think of a song, I bring it to you. Yeah, and then I bring it to Gabby because she has she's musical, but she's not a writer, but she knows good music. She does. And she'll tell me, Oh my gosh, that's really good. Or that's that's way too wordy. Huh?

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Do you bring it to Chris to fur your brother?

SPEAKER_03 30:01

No.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Do you bring it to your husband, Chris?

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Yes. Yes. Because he is so he likes only country music. Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

That's why he's part of the family.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

And he'll give me uh, oh, I love that if it's really, really good. And then he'll just go, that was cute if it's not that good. So I trust his opinion. And you know your brother. My brother will think any idea. He's gonna love it all.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

It's amazing. He's just proud of you all the time.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Yes. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Well, this is cool, you know. Uh, I think this is all being recorded during um Women's History Month. And just recently there was um Women's International Day. It was yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

International Women's History.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

I'm trying not to put a date on this recording, but thank you for doing that.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Well, it was somewhere in this month.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Yes, somewhere in this month. So uh, but I want you to know this. Uh, I'm surrounded by very strong women that every day demonstrate their wisdom, their strength, their balance, their honor, their desire to be a team leader and a team player. And it's what makes me and my son and all the men that are on our staff better because we

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SPEAKER_01 31:19

are surrounded by strong women that want to be part of the team. And I'm so grateful for that. So, ladies, good job today. This was a good one.

SPEAKER_04 31:28

Good job.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

I had fun with you. Thanks for inviting me to your table every day, because this was your episode. Yes. And we welcome you and thank you for joining us for another one of our episodes here at the Family Business with the Alessis. Thanks for joining.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

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