How to Teach Your Kids to Finish Well (Even When You Face Your Own Challenges) S5 E10

Introducing S5 E10

SPEAKER_00 0:09

Hello and welcome to the family business with the Alessis. Because we all know that family is everybody's business. And today I'm opening up because we're doing something cool. Of course, we're here with my sister, Stephanie Muenia. Good to have you. If you don't know me, I'm Chris Alesi. Um, but we're here today to really talk about the new author, Pastor Dad Steve Tadun Alesi. Here he is. This is exciting.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Yeah, and I'm being interviewed on my own podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

We're interviewing you. Which we just threw it at him, by the way. But before we counted down, I said, hey, we're going to interview you. But it's really because uh, you know, this podcast, our podiums has been hearing for a long time about 42 and what that means for our church and how that stems from um a point in your life that we've talked a lot about. Yeah, but you're releasing a book about it now, and it's a guide to finishing well when you were almost finished.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Yes, yes. Well, first, thanks for having me on the podcast today.

SPEAKER_05 1:15

Glad you're here. Glad to be in.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

I am too. It's been it's very nice to be in the studio with Christopher, my son, and Stephanie, my daughter. Um, it is, Chris. It's it's a special time to be able to talk about 42,

What is a “42 Moment”?

SPEAKER_02 1:31

the actual name of the book that is describing the uh 42 minutes that the paramedics worked on me when I had the widowmaker heart attack. It was almost 15 years ago, 2007. So we're at that period where um I can finally put it in print, which we have done. And um, when you do see it on the back side, it says, if you're not dead, God's not done.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

And uh so yeah, we're excited. It's coming out right around Easter, and we will uh be talking about it quite a bit from at least the story aspect, because I believe my 42 is just representative of other people who have their own 42 moments. Because um, guys, when I was having my heart attack, David and Tony were losing their business. Yep. Uh, my heart attack, my 42 was a heart attack, theirs was a business meltdown from one day to the next. And how many others are experiencing their own 42? Divorce, unexpected death of a loved one, um, financial break uh ruin. Yeah. Uh there's that challenge that hits you in life, and you have to sit back and say, All right, I may feel like I'm finished, but there's more life to be lived.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah. And you know what's crazy? And Steph obviously will give you a second to chime in, but we just did a CPR training for our team this Saturday. So the guy was talking about how to get the AED, how it will shock people. Yep. And so we actually stood up at the end of the whole training and and John actually got us started by saying, Hey, this is really important to us. Yeah. You know, we we and we started telling him uh Eddie was wearing a 42 shirt. So we were talking about it. When he found out that when the instructor found out that they worked on you for that long, he couldn't fathom it. And then when we told him that there was seven shocks with the pads, that you were awake for the last one, it felt like someone dropped you off a two-story building. He could not fathom that they worked that long and that hard on you. So it just completely shifted the whole dynamic of the room because they did, they worked for 42 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

They did. And it describes it how I felt when I saw them the next day after the heart attack, and these paramedics came to visit me when I was in ICU. You guys couldn't even come to visit. Mom couldn't hardly come to visit, but these guys came in to follow up because they said, Man, we remembered it was a long day. They wanted to check on me. Matter of fact, the uh paramedics that I reached out to not too long ago to let them know the book's being released. I wanted to acknowledge them in the book. One of them sent me a text back and said, you know, I use that experience as part of the training for new recruits today. So that it was a real deal. And I don't I talk about it being, you know, when I had my heart attack, I talk about that. But not too many people realize just how close to death I was. And so even Margie, who works for Margie and our church, works for my um uh cardiologist. Yeah, that's all right.

SPEAKER_05 4:34

Our cardiologist works at a cardiologist, yes, she is.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

She let me know, Steve. No, you coded. Yeah, you called it. I I got your your file, it's in the records. So yeah, it was there.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

Well, you just said a great word, and this is where we want to talk about in this podcast today. You talked about how they use that for training. And the truth is, uh, as your children, we did not realize how much we would use that moment as training for us in our own situations.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Um, and the reason we wrote the book, it's not just uh, you know, an autobiography. It really is a guide for other people to do the same. You mentioned financial ruin or divorce. Uh, it wasn't either of those for us, but um, maybe there's still other 42 moments to be out there for us. Yeah, but we have already overcome certain things in our younger lives, strictly because we watched you overcome that. You know, I remember something funny, and Steph, you'll remember this. But um,

Stephanie’s Memories of the Heart Attack

SPEAKER_00 5:28

so we were in the condo next to you while this was going on, and either rock band or guitar hero had just come out. Oh no. I think it was rock band, though, because I think we were using multiple instruments.

SPEAKER_05 5:38

Yeah, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

And mom comes, so we're just, you know, we're playing because you guys were setting up the apartment. So we're playing, we're having a good time, me and the three girls. And mom comes in as we're playing rock band and is like, hey, keep the girls in here. Well, says this to you. Says this to me.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

How old are you at this time?

SPEAKER_00 5:54

I'm 14, 15 years old. So I just became puffed up. Like, mom says they have to listen to me. And so I remember I say nothing, but after a couple of minutes, the girls are wanting to go over to either ask mom a question or whatever. And it became the biggest fight, having to keep the girls away from that door.

SPEAKER_05 6:13

Because we overheard mom say that, and we were like, oh no, that is not happening. They are not keeping us away from what's going on next door.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

And we're not gonna listen to Chris. FOMO.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

And we're not gonna FOMO. Actually, yeah, to be more clear, it was it was just me. Lauren and Gabby were very fine listening to mom telling you to keep us over there. I was the one that could not handle that. Something was going on next door that I could not be a part of.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

And that door had a little window and a screen. And so they were running over and I mean, I remember having to pull stuff away at points. Um, that's how I ended up getting a glimpse of them taking you down on the stretcher. Yeah. So it was crazy because we didn't know what was going on, but it caused a fight. We were fighting. And we didn't realize how much that watching that play out, having to fight, all of that, we didn't know how much that would set us up in our own lives to fight, to, to receive training and to be better. So uh I'll go into mine in a minute, but Steph, if we're if you know, just real quick in a minute or two, uh, how how many times have you had to finish well, even though you thought you were finished? And how do we pull on the material in the book, but also what we learned from dad?

SPEAKER_05 7:25

It's a very big question to ask with only two minutes. Um I guess I would say I remember one of one of my biggest memories from that whole season was way after the heart attack, about two months after we came home. We were in Miami, you were out of the hospital, you were recovered. And I walk into your room late one night, and you were sitting on your your bed crying in your bed. And I went up beside you and I said, Dad, why are you crying? And I'm crying with you because to see your dad cry, it just gets you. And you had worship music playing on your computer or your phone, and you just looked at me and you were like, Steph, God saved my life. Wow, I almost died, and it's hitting me almost every day that God saved my life, and that that reflection of what God brought you through and the darkness that you saw, and to see how God how far God went to save your life, that always left a mark on me. I'll always remember that night. I remember exactly where you sat, exactly what you were wearing, because I saw my dad, the strongest man in my life, feel so humbled by what God did for him. And he cried about it, and he wasn't afraid to cry about it. And I think what that taught me was look back on what the Lord does for your life, how far the Lord takes you. Sorry, I got deep real fast there. You told me two minutes, but I've it what that that really is something that taught me reflect on how far God went for you and be humbled by how far he went for you and remember that. Yeah, and don't forget that. And if it makes you cry, then cry because it's an emotional journey and it's crazy how far we'll go to save somebody that he loves.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Yeah. Well, this is why uh it's it's right here, that little emotion breakdown there. It's taken so long to put these words into print because every time I reflect, I I just can't help but think.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

No, that close.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

How much could have been missed sitting here all these years later? Steph, you gave us a beautiful baby girl. Chris, you're about to give us a beautiful handsome, hopefully athletic, poor guy, merino baby boy. Um, how much could have been missed by by that? Which just makes me think, you know, uh at the taping, the the time of this taping, today is, I believe

How You Inspire Kids to Overcome

SPEAKER_02 10:00

it's national um um syndrome uh day. And uh we were just with a bunch of our chaplains over at um meeting the new chief of police here in Durral. And when he went around the table asking us about our different kids, um one of the uh chaplains is uh a precious rabbi, and he says, Yeah, I have 10 kids, and he says one of them has um Down syndrome, and the chief says, Oh, today's National Day Down syndrome and um to recognize those with it. And he says, and the the the chaplain, I mean uh the rabbi says, No, every day for me is Down syndrome day. Uh, you know, having to deal with things like that in life uh is exactly what this book is about. Yeah because you look at something like that, even the story of a precious young man that we've seen born and raised in this church, uh Nick Gomez, Melanie and Tony Gomez share their story that we also put in the book just because it inspired me at the time when I was going through what I was going through. Uh but uh yeah, people sometimes will take a hit in life and and they're that close and it is emotional.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Well, here's the thing that I love about that. You know, did you really recognize that your daughter at the time would remember that conversation?

SPEAKER_02 11:31

She never shared that with me before.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

No, and it it proves that to anybody going through their moment right now, yeah, you have no idea who's watching you. Yes, who's picking up and learning? Why do you need a guide to finish well? Because you're not finished, and there are people that are watching. Yeah. I was talking to AP about it. We were going over through this, you know, when he was a young dad, he didn't know what he was doing. He had to figure it out. He had no idea that his sons were watching him figure this out and think if dad figured it out, we can too. Um, and so you know, when you consider you remember that moment. I didn't even hear that moment.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

I wonder, can you reshape the moments that your kids remember? Because the truth is, I'm on the other side of the spectrum. I don't remember anything.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

I don't remember anything. I I think I remember the fighting, I remember a couple images, but I'm almost shocked when we talk about you having a heart attack. I'm almost like, why? There's no way that happened. I know the reason for that though is the way you lived your life after that, I don't think you ever looked like a heart attack victim.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

That's good.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

You never did. You found a way, and I'm not even talking about 16 years later. I'm talking about 16 days later. Like you found a way to say that is not what I will be remembered for or as. And so I do not think people look at you and think that there was some massive health issue. No, I don't think people recognize that no matter what they're going through now, they could use today to be a buffer between that reality and the new one.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

And they could build their life to a place where no one remembers the financial crisis. The Burks have done that.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

So many people, uh, David Martinez is a part of that. They you don't even remember they went through that crisis.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

So you need this guide to finish well because when we faced smaller moments, but still moments for us, one of the biggest things that terrified me is, oh shoot, will this always be a small moment of my story? Will people ever be able to see me without thinking about the moment where I struggled here?

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

And the answer is, yeah, they they will forget if you forget and move on. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Let me yeah, Chris, that's true. You know, I was talking to somebody last week and

Reversing Your Fears

SPEAKER_02 14:00

they were talking about something that caused them fear and stress and anxiety. And I said, I hate to go back to my story about the heart attack, but let me go back. When I had the heart attack, prior to I struggled with the fear of having a heart attack. I can't tell you where that came from, other than when I was a kid, and uh, I mean like 12, 10, 12, something like that. After church one day, we all went to eat at a restaurant. It was, I think, um, maybe La Careta at the time, or another Spanish restaurant that would have been on 87th Avenue in um Coral Way. So we're after church, there was a little mall over there, Strip Mall, and that's where we lived in Westchester. And after church, we went to eat. In the middle of dinner, a gentleman by the name of Clay Jarrett grabbed his chest. Oh my, and right in front of us all was having a heart attack. Okay. Paramedics got there, wheeled him out, took care of him. He survived. Survived two more heart attacks.

SPEAKER_05 15:12

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

He stood around. So, so get this. Somewhere was lodged in my mind the fear of that. A fear of it. And then when Papa used to have high blood pressure, he'd always be taking medication. Oh, yeah. There was that thought, okay. My grandfather died of a heart attack in his 60s. Okay. Uh, and so I just always kind of put Papa passing, which was Papa's Papa, my grand, my Papa, him passing, my dad having to take blood pressure medication, Clay Jarrett's heart attack. And all that stayed in my mind. So when all of a sudden I started to feel the pain move from my shoulder to the middle of my chest, I heard that phrase from Job, that which I feared the most has come upon me.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

So that thing, I'm like, wow, this was this hidden deal that I was always so afraid of coming at me that that would be my issue, right? Yeah. Well, the very thing then that caused me fear that I felt like shucks, I failed, that I feared it and it came upon me was the very image I had to help me get out of it. Because I remember saying to myself, the next day when I woke up, I said, gosh, I remember Clay Jarrett having that heart attack. I then said, Yes, but he had two more after that and he survived. So, Steve, you can survive. Whether it's a one more heart attack in the future, whatever, because that was there. Oh, if he had two, I'll have two. However, if it hit me one time, it'll hit me. But the very thing that caused me fear at one point of my life gave me the motivation to say, no, I can still live on the other side of this. So, yes, whatever is hitting our audience, whatever comes against them, as bad as it is, there's also hope on the other side of it. I hope this book provides that. Yeah. Because when you do look at me today, it's like the Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego that were thrown into the fire. No smoke. There's no smoke, there's no smell of smoke. You don't realize it. I gotta tell people. And other than my gray hair, they're like, oh, you're not 62. No, for real. You don't look like you're sick. No, you don't look like you had a heart issue. But I got a stint to prove it.

SPEAKER_05 17:29

Well, man.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 17:31

I think what I love about that is it's so normal to remember all the bad stories. That's so normal. You remember the person in your family that just had three marriages. You remember that one best friend that was ended up lonely because they just they didn't, they didn't weren't committed to their friends. You always remember the bad choices people make and you just believe that if you make one small bad choice, you're gonna end up just like that person. But I love that your mind thought, well, look at the good side. He survived.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

He survived.

SPEAKER_05 18:07

And I think that's so important for us to remember that if we have our fortitude moment that maybe we brought on ourselves, we we made the mistake. Yeah, we made the bad choice. Don't forget to finish the story. Yeah, don't forget to finish how I made that mistake. Yes, I'm going through a divorce, but I found some God redeemed my life by bringing another person into my life. I made the better choices. I repented from those bad choices in the past. I got around with the right leaders and I became a better person after my 42 moment. Don't forget to share that part of the story. Yeah. Because young people like us that are still at the first season of our life, we remember those. It's so easy to remember the bad stories, but it gives us something to hold on to when we're face to face with our own 42 moment.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

Yeah. And you're gonna have it. Chris, did you have you had a 42 you felt like in your young life yet?

SPEAKER_00 19:01

I would say so. Yeah. I would say my my most recent book came from that. Um, but I I so connect with what dad was just saying about, you know, almost kind of putting these puzzle pieces together. They don't really fit, but fear makes them all fit. Yes. And I remember mom's father, my grandfather on that side, um, just didn't finish well at all. Um, never met the guy until he passed away. Um, not a pretty picture. And you've said on this very podcast that her parents should have never gotten divorced. Your parents, by the grace of God, didn't. Um, just didn't make any sense. And I remember when he passed away, mom looked at me and made some kind of statement about, you know, with tears in her eyes, and she said, You remind me so much of him. No, she was grieving. She was grieving him. And she was the worst thing to say. She was grieving the good in him. Yeah. Because when you would watch him minister, it was a lot like the way that I do. Yeah. Uh, larger than life, funniest person to ever walk the planet. You know, the stuff like when you think of that's you know, you know, it's just something like you.

SPEAKER_04 20:08

That's what she meant.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Well, little did mom know that I had heard, I had my own clay Jarrett. I have a pastor friend that said that he went to, he had to perform a funeral for a 17-year-old kid that passed away. And he felt like a spirit of death jumped on him. And he couldn't get out of it for like a year.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

And at the time, I was like, dude, you should have called me a year ago. I would have talked you out of that nonsense. But that was lingering in the back of my head that this guy went through this thing for a year. Now mom's telling me that this man who didn't finish well, after he died, that spirit's got to go somewhere in my mind. I'm like, was it logically? It's got to be me. Yeah. And I just had this image in my head of a future I couldn't escape.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

I was going to become a bad person. I just couldn't escape it.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

I know.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Um, and it was a talking to you, being vocal about it, you know, coming out, but then also recognize coming out, uh recognizing I have to, I have to discuss what's going on. I can't let it just live up here. I have to discuss this. Um, seeing you have to put all that behind you, and then looking at Pampa, seeing that you did not smell smoke on him.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

And and we would hear you talk about certain seasons of his life and be like, there's no way that could be him. And to see these two situations juxtaposed against each other, they have the same name, but they couldn't have been any more different.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

So true.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

It it blew my mind and it helped me see, oh my gosh, I am not at the mercy of a day. You know, I can, I like you weren't, I can make choices and shape my life. And I don't think people recognize that. That you you literally got off the mat, dad.

SPEAKER_03 21:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

You literally got off the mat. If you could, anyone else can.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

And so that that was mine. And I don't feel like I smell like smoke from that season that that terrorized me.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Well, not that you have to go through a 42 moment, but

Fighting for Your Family

SPEAKER_02 22:15

if you ever do, um here here's what I would love to be able to say about our family. Even though you're Moina now, you still got a lessee in your blood.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

We're fighters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

My father was a fighter. Yes, he was. He fought for his family. He fought for the kingdom. He fought for the right things. I love that about Papa and missed that about Papa. I'll never forget when he went to fight for me when I was a young guy and I made some mistakes and stood before a group of ministers. And man, Papa was right there next to me to defend me. And he got so ticked. And we joked later because he says, I put a hex on all of them. And one of them passed away rather young. We're like, wow, Papa.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

He says, Yeah, I picked up some of that Alessie voodoo that I my my grandmother had back in Italy, and I put peppers on them, and I put garlic, and I'm I'm like, wow, you were serious. He said, I don't know who I prayed to, but yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Pastor John is that you uh he always fought, and um, you know, I and I always picked up that as like, no, if Papa can fight, man, I'm gonna fight.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Uh, we're gonna we're not gonna stay down. We can't stay down.

SPEAKER_04 23:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

And uh, you know, Steph, you'll appreciate this because when mom and I were up at uh the condo and all of y'all were here, I can't even remember who was taking care of y'all.

SPEAKER_05 23:39

When you were in the hospital?

SPEAKER_02 23:41

When we mom and I were up there, stayed for another couple of months, and y'all were down here still having to go to school and everything. Who stayed with you?

SPEAKER_05 23:47

Probably Maureen David. Church people we stayed at their house a lot too.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Yeah, yeah. But I I'll never forget like three or four days in, again, emotionally just a wreck. And now I'm home in the condo with mom, and I get in the shower, and all of a sudden she comes in the shower with me. No, it wasn't sexy or anything like that. We both wept in the shower, just wept holding on to each other because we realized how close that was. Wow, and it was like, man. And then the thing in my head after that, this is why I appreciate having that image of Clay Jarrett getting over it was I didn't want to be feeble. I started to feel frail, old, and I was only 46, 46, not even 47 yet. And I started to feel old, and I didn't like that, but I remember Jarrett. No, man, he he had it, but he stayed strong, and uh, I I gotta fight, gotta be strong. So all these years later, we can finish well. And I have you here at the table because part of finishing well is we work together.

SPEAKER_05 24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Told mom last night in the kitchen, I love going to work with my kids. I love that. I really do. We get to extend, you know, thank God you all go to your own home so we don't get too tired of each other. I know. But then that you're bringing grandchildren to the mix. It's a tough one. Talk about finishing well.

SPEAKER_05 25:10

And dad, I know that story is a little, some people might be like, why the heck did you just share a story of you and your wife in the shower? But what I love about with our bathing suits. With your bathing suits on, fully clothed. But I what I love about that is you, I yes, you you are a strong man. There's I really have not met a stronger man, but your husband's pretty strong, baby. My husband is he's the strongest man I know. You're second.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

And well, you don't have to go that far.

SPEAKER_05 25:39

You and you're third. I'm just kidding.

unknown 25:41

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

No, but let me finish this point.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

I I don't know if I want you to finish the point after that comment.

SPEAKER_05 25:47

No, you're the second.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

You are okay. Go, go, go.

SPEAKER_05 25:50

No, you're 42nd. I'm just kidding. No, I love how you allowed all of the tragedies in your life to bring you closer to mom. You never isolated yourself, you never let any pride get in the way there. And it's the strength that I see in y'all's marriage where you have seen the worst in each other and you guys love each other even more for it. Yeah. And now that I'm married and I see that's a that's a choice you have to make. That's not something that comes naturally. And I'm so grateful that you allowed your your pain, your 42 moment to only bring you to make you more open to your family and your kids, more humble with your family and closer to us. You let us in on your process. Yeah. You didn't hide us from all of it. No. And I'm so glad that we get to we get our own experiences of how amazing you were in that season. We have our own testimonies of how awesome you were. And it's only brought us closer. It's only made me respect you more.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Right.

SPEAKER_05 26:48

And it's only made the story more genuine because you have witnesses that tell the story.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Well, your mom was a rock star during all of this.

SPEAKER_05 26:56

Yeah, she was.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

The way she had to step up, fought in faith, fought in prayer, kept everything at least in the moment when she was alone. She was going to do that alone. Yeah, no, I can't. Up there at the hospital. We didn't have everybody right there by her side. She was in that emergency room alone. And she didn't, she didn't waver one bit. She kept fighting. And uh, that's where we knew, okay, man, we're gonna come out of this in the long run. Because uh, as long as she was on my side, we were together as one, we're gonna be all right.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Well, as we bring this to a close, I think one of the one of the reasons why this book has been shaped into really your 42 moment, but helping others finish well, is when we were processing the book out loud, questioning, talking about it, how do we make this happen? You were asked the question, what is your life message? The first question you were asked, what's your life message? We knew we were gathering to discuss the heart attack in the 42 moments. We know the messages associated with that. If God could use these men and ungodly men to save a godly man, how much more in reverse? All that. You didn't say any of that. You sat there with tears in your eyes like this, and you said, I need to finish well. And that took the whole room by surprise because we thought, here he is, doesn't smell like smoke, seems to have beaten it. I mean, it's it's so far behind you, and yet you are still thinking, I need to finish well.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

So the truth is, this isn't just for people who are going through it right now. This is for people who are on the mountain. Yeah, you got to finish on the mountain. Yeah, it's for people in the valley. You can get out and then still finish well. So we all need this book. It's it's it's not it's not really something to pull you out of a hole, it's something to make sure that you run the race with endurance. Yes. So when you're done, you can hear God say, Hey, good job. And I think, I think we can say, Um, no matter how often we've done a good job, we have to do a good job today, too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:57

That's really good.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

And that's why people need

Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_00 29:00

to get their hands on this. Yeah, it's good. Do you want to close this out?

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Well, I'm proud of y'all. I'm proud that as a family, uh, we can go through the latter seasons of life with no real limps. Uh uh, I'm glad that you can make adjustments on the fly. You've learned that life's not perfect. It's not. Even when you say that you're a Christian, life's not perfect. You're gonna take your hits, but we know from those hits as long as we get back up. The Bible says that a righteous man will fall seven times and then get back up. And seven being the number of uh number of finality and perfection and such, he's actually saying, hey, you're gonna fall throughout your life, but you can't you can't stay there. You gotta get back up. So today I hope you were inspired by our podcast. We want to encourage you to go get the book 42, a guide to finishing well when you were almost finished. Why? Because if you're not dead, God's not done. Thanks for joining us today.

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